From Civil Rights to Civil Conversations
Gail Hirschorn Evans 鈥63 worked at the White House in the Office of the Special Counsel to the President during the Lyndon Johnson administration and was instrumental in the creation of the President鈥檚 Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity and the 1965 Civil Rights Act. Decades later she is still challenging our biases. By Jeva Lange 鈥15

Here is your result.
The words are written in black, bolded letters across the top of my computer screen. The next line says: 鈥淵our data suggests a strong automatic association for 鈥榤ale鈥 with 鈥榮cience鈥 and 鈥榝emale鈥 with 鈥榣iberal arts.鈥欌
The sinking feeling in my chest is as immediate and crushing as if I have received an F on an algebra test. Sexist? Me? As a West-Coast-raised, Women鈥檚 March-protesting feminist, I am shaken to my core. Where did I start internalizing this? And even more distressing, when?
I took the Harvard Implicit Association Test at the direction of Gail Hirschorn Evans 鈥63, who has spent nearly a lifetime trying to understand just this. As she tells me on the phone, 鈥淧eople who consider themselves great liberals say things like, 鈥業 don鈥檛 see race. I see the person.鈥 That鈥檚 BS. It鈥檚 just not true. 鈥業 don鈥檛 see gender in my hiring, I see the quality of the person and their accomplishments.鈥 That鈥檚 not true.鈥
After having spent decades working in male-dominated industries, Evans knows what she is talking about. Evans began at CNN in 1980 and by the time she retired in 2001, she was the executive vice president of the entire newsgroup. In 2000, she used her experience in the business world to publish a bestseller titled Play Like a Man, Win Like a Woman: What Men Know About Success That Women Need to Learn, which lays out in conversational terms how women can tweak their thinking in order to make it to the top.
As Evans notes, 鈥淎t the end of my career, after I wrote Play Like a Man, Win Like a Woman, I was giving a speech one day and I said, 鈥極h, isn鈥檛 that interesting? My career has actually been circular.鈥 I never even thought about it.鈥
That circle begins back when Evans was in fourth grade, when she read a biography of Clare Boothe Luce, the first woman to be appointed to a major ambassadorial post. 鈥淚 read this book and was like, 鈥極h, look, a woman could do that!鈥欌 Evans recalled. 鈥淚 think it sort of inspired me."
Luce sparked Evans鈥 passion for politics, and all the debate and ruckus that comes with it. 鈥淢y mother always used to scream at me, 鈥楯ust remember, it took Republican money to make you a parlor pink!鈥欌 said Evans, laughing. By the time she was in college, Evans was interning for a woman at the Asia Society in New York, who eventually connected her with a man named William Fitts Ryan. Ryan, as it turned out, was planning to run for the House of Representatives. He won, and Evans worked for him during every Field Work Term and summer that followed until graduation.
Then she moved to Washington.
It was the early 1960s, and America was roiling in the civil rights conflict. After working on the staffs of two other Congressmen, though, Evans began to get restless鈥攁nd ambitious. 鈥淎nytime I went to any parties or did anything in Washington, I would say, 鈥業f anybody knows anybody who鈥檚 looking for somebody at the White House, I鈥檓 game and available.鈥欌
That is how Evans eventually landed in the Office of the Special Counsel to the President during the Johnson administration.
Evans took to it鈥攕he loved the challenge and didn鈥檛 mind the long hours that came with the job, either.
There were always either personality disasters or legal disasters or political disasters, and you just had to figure out the best way to handle it,鈥 she says with surprising enthusiasm.
Most of her work at the time centered on research for the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the President鈥檚 Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity. She describes an atmosphere where, while it was predominantly men talking about the legislation in the congressional chambers, it was ambitious young women who fueled the research behind their landmark bills.
鈥淭here鈥檚 a lot of hard work and a lot of research that goes into creating those kinds of things,鈥 Evans said. 鈥淭hen there鈥檚 the glory part at the end, where the president and everybody puts it together and sells it. But to get there, with the right language, with the right verb tenses, to make sure it will politically hold up鈥攖hat takes a lot of staff time.鈥
So whenever a question would come up鈥攚as this the right language? Was there a historical precedent for that?鈥擡vans or one of her three or four colleagues in the office would rush off to find out.
A lot of Evans鈥 energy went toward getting the business community on board with the equal opportunity legislation: 鈥淧art of what you did was help identify who are the business leaders who need to be talked to, how do they need to be talked
to, what are their interests, where are the sweet spots with all of them,鈥 Evans says. 鈥淟iterally鈥攁nd I was a young nobody, you would do anything from plan the party to do the research about the people who were coming, and then if one of the waiters didn鈥檛 show up, you鈥檇 pass the drinks.鈥
But while the legislation would include the protection of women in its language, at the time it was much more centered on minorities. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 even remember much discussion about women,鈥 Evans admits. 鈥淚 actually think I was probably very na茂ve. I believed if you were smart and you worked hard and you knew what you were doing and you understood politics, then opportunities for women were not going to be that different than for men. It was not until I got deep into my career that I realized the higher I went, how few other women there were.鈥
In fact, Evans believes that in the decades since the landmark civil rights legislation was signed, the discrimination against women and minorities has become increasingly subtle. Soon enough, she says, Americans forgot how to talk about issues of race and gender altogether鈥攐r perhaps they never really understood how.
鈥淲hen women talk about gender [today], men feel attacked,鈥 Evans says. 鈥淲hen black people try to talk about race, white people feel attacked, or they feel guilty. We never sit down and ask each other questions: How do you feel, why do you feel that way, why was that your reaction?鈥
Today, when Evans teaches on the topic at Georgia Tech, she makes her students anonymously write down questions they wish they could ask a member of another race, and then she reads them all out loud to the class. She says that the exercise is not about how shocking the white students鈥 questions are, 鈥渋t鈥檚 how shocking everybody鈥檚 questions are.鈥
How come they can say the n-word and I can鈥檛?
How come white people say 鈥榟ello, how are you?鈥 and don鈥檛 actually want to know the answer?
Why are Asians such bad drivers?
How come white people wear shorts and flip-flops when it鈥檚 30 degrees out?
鈥淭he total absurdity of the questions shows you how little we understand about each other,鈥 Evans says. 鈥淎nd how we鈥檙e not willing to venture out because we can鈥檛 ask those questions.鈥
Evans鈥 point isn鈥檛 that anyone is 鈥渂ad鈥 for wondering these things, just as she isn鈥檛 trying to shame me when she suggests I take the Harvard Implicit Association Test. But while Evans鈥 early days in government may have been spent protecting against the glaring biases of Jim Crow and the open discrimination against women in male-dominated industries, in the 21st century she has focused on a subtler foe.
The antidote? We need to notice other individuals in their entirety, rather than shy away from what could feel 鈥渨rong鈥 to acknowledge that we see.
We want to say, 鈥榃hen I鈥檓 hiring, gender and race doesn鈥檛 make any difference to me, I don鈥檛 even see it. All I see are the qualifications on the paper,鈥欌 Evans said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 not true. And it doesn鈥檛 mean the person is bad, it just means the person somehow doesn鈥檛 understand.
I actually want people to be really aware of a woman,鈥 Evans said. 鈥淎nd most black people and most Asian people and most Hispanic people want you to be aware: That鈥檚 who I am. That鈥檚 a good thing. That鈥檚 not something you deny.鈥